Sunday, July 2, 2023

Pat Ament's Response to Ed Decker on Purportedly False Prophecies of Joseph Smith

  

He cites, for example, a vision of Joseph’s in which Joseph saw the Twelve (the twelve apostles) in the celestial kingdom of God. (History of the Church, vol. 2, p. 382) Decker asks how they could ever have attained the celestial kingdom if several of them were excommunicated. Decker’s first mistake is to refer to this vision as a prophecy. Nowhere is it identified as such. Visions are of a very mysterious nature and sometimes simply show that might be, or what the potential is (and in the case of this vision what might be possible if everyone involved is righteous). Often visions are to give understanding to the recipient. Zechariah was referred to as a man “who had understanding in the visions of God” (2 Chronicles 26:5). The same is said of Daniel, that he “had understanding in all visions” (Daniel 1:17). Job was “terrified through visions” (Job 7:14). The Book of Revelation, or Apocalypse of John, is an ongoing vision with many strange, colorful dimensions and details, beasts, wars, and angels, along with dark, light, and various almost incomprehensible panoramas.

 

The nature of such visions has long been the subject of scholarly scrutiny, and somewhat to no avail. Such visions, in a sense, belong only to those to whom they are given. Yet it is possible to understand the general themes of the Book of Revelation, for example of overcoming the world, or the victory of good or evil, etc. It is not surprising that Joseph Smith called this “one of the plainest books God ever caused to be written.” (History of the Church, 5:342). Joseph’s experience with visions made such understandings so, and his visions of the twelve in the celestial kingdom cannot be dismissed because some of them were excommunicated.

 

Decker scoffs at the Word of Wisdom, Section 89 of the Doctrine and Covenants. The Word of Wisdom, is more or less—in all outward appearances—the health code for Latter-day Saints. While the Word of Wisdom has received modern praise by leading physicians and nutritionists, it is something deeper, spiritually, than a mere health code. It promises those who follow its principles “health in their naval and marrow in their bones.” Yet people who follow the code “shall find wisdom and great treasures of knowledge, even hidden treasures.” (D&C 89:18-19). It has been a long established fact that Mormons have the lowest rate of cancer and the most freedom from various illnesses. They have the longest life span. Decker admits this, but he states, for example, about Mormons, “they do not find any treasures of knowledge.” His pretended understanding of what Latter-day Saints find, receive, or do not, in the way of knowledge, is ludicrously presumptuous. What does on in the privacy of anyone’s heart, life, or spiritual experience, is only the wildest supposition on his part.

 

Decker mentions the “potsherd” prophecy, where at Carthage, Illinois, on May 18, 1843, Joseph Smith said to Stephen A. Douglas, “I prophesy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints n the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed for her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left.” Decker calls this another failure at prophecy, since the United States Government never did redress any wrongs and now is the most powerful government in the world.

 

It might be a little complex to propose what the fulfillment or time line of this prophecy might be. It might be easiest, and perhaps too easy, to note that every member of that government is now deceased. More interesting is the possibility that the prophecy is still in effect and refers to something yet to come. More realistic is Carver’s commentary about how 94% of the 28th and 29th Congress was removed and replaced within eight years.

 

Joseph told Douglas that he [Douglas] would one day aspire to the presidency of the United States and that if Douglas ever lifted his hand against the Latter-day Saints he would feel the weight of the hand of the Almighty upon him. Douglas became the Democratic candidate for president in 1860. He began to denounce the Mormons in an attempt to mend political fences in Illinois where anti-Mormon sentiment continued to exist. Douglas lost the election to Abraham Lincoln who, by contract, said, “Leave the Mormons alone.” Douglas, the favorite, received twelve electoral votes to Lincoln’s one hundred and eighty. Douglas died young (age 48) about a year later, a disappointed man. (History of the Church, vol. 5, p. 394-396). (Pat Ament, Joseph Smith’s Prophetic Gifts—His Prophecies Fulfilled, ed. Brian Stutzman [2d ed.; 2023], 186-87)

 

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