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Sola Scriptura Debate: Robert Boylan (Latter-day Saint) vs. Kelly Powers (Protestant)





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A Skeptical Analysis of the 1917 Marian Apparitions and Miracle of the Sun














The Hoax That Should Have Fooled Joseph Smith

The following is a very good overview of the Kinderhook Plates affair:


The Hoax That Should Have Fooled Joseph Smith






However, I must warn people: trigger-warning! There is a disturbing image from 0:59 until 1:05.

Roman Catholic Apologist Ethan Muse Wants Non-Catholics to Be Unalived

Totally normal and sane. Be sure to share this far and wide.






Report of Late (January 23, 1899) Reminiscences of those who Knew Joseph Testifying He Prophesied of a move to the Rocky Mountains

  

WHAT JOSEPH SMITH SAID.
Aged Citizens Testify at Heber to His Words.

(Special Correspondence.)
Heber, Jan. 23.—Last evening the Y. M. I. A. of Wasatch stake closed the two-days’ annual conference. The meetings, with the exception of the first, have been very largely attended.

 

A very impressing circumstance occurred on Sunday afternoon which will have an everlasting impression upon the minds of all present. While Elder A. T. Duke was addressing the service on Saturday afternoon he spoke of the prediction made by the prophet Joseph Smith concerning the church of the Latter-day Saints coming to the mountains. The speaker said there were those in the meeting who heard the prophet predict the Saints would go to the mountains, where they would become a mighty people.

 

At the service yesterday afternoon, while the tabernacle was crowded to its full capacity, general secretary of the Y. M. M. I. A., Thomas Hull, asked all who heard the prophet Joseph predict the Saints would come to the mountains to come to the stand so the congregation could see and hear them testify. For said Mr. Hull, the reorganized church of the Latter-day Saints say that Joseph never made such a prediction, and those who came to the mountains under the leadership of Brigham Young were following a false prophet. Accordingly about twelve honorable gray-haired ladies and gentlemen, Nauvoo veterans, appeared on the stand, creating a very imposing and impressive effect upon the vast audience.

 

The first veteran speaker was Henry S. Alexander, who used to be a steward on board the Maid of Iowa, plying on the Mississippi river. The speaker was well acquainted with Joseph Smith. He was present when Joseph declared the church would be driven from the confines of the United States, and would be established in the valleys of the Rocky mountains, where the members of the Church would become a great and a mighty people. “I heard the prophetic declaration,” said Mr. Alexander, “and have lived to see it fulfilled as well as many other predictions made.”

 

Joseph S. Murdock, another aged veteran, next addressed the congregation. When a boy in company with a score or more young men in a little meeting in the city of Nauvoo, Patriarch Hyrum Smith addressed them and said there were young men in that meeting who would live and go with the body of the church to the Rocky mountains.

 

Mr. Murdock had heard Joseph and Hyrum both give this wonderful prophetic prediction more than once. When the prophet was on his way to Carthage jail to deliver himself up to the officers of the law, Mr. Murdock approached him and asked him his views on the situation, and the prophet answered that he had no very great light in the direction in which he was going. The light he had was toward the mountains.

 

The next to address the people was a very aged lady from Midway, a Mrs. Clift. She knew the prophet Joseph Smith. Had talked with him and dined with him at his table many many times; had often heard him say the Saints would go to the Rocky mountains and Zion would become a mighty people.

 

Mrs. Annie R. Duke was acquainted with Joseph Smith, but was not present at the public meeting where he made the prediction concerning the Saints going to the mountains. Her mother, however, was at the meeting. Mrs. Duke’s mother is still living in southern Utah.

There were many other aged worthy persons present who were ready to testify, but time would not suffice.

 

The remainder of the time was occupied by an interesting address by Elder Thomas Hull of Salt Lake. After which Mrs. Hull rendered a beautiful solo.

 

The conference just closed has been a very interesting one throughout. (“What Joseph Smith Said,” Salt Lake Herald, no. 319 [January 24, 1899]: 6)

 

 

Further Reading:

 

Resources on Joseph Smith's Prophecies

Jeremiah Stokes, Jr. on the Fulfillment of D&C 64:41-43 in the March 31, 1900 issue of the Latter Day Saints Southern Star

  

From the 64th section of the Doctrine and Covenants these prophetic words are recorded as they were given by the Prophet Joseph Smith in the year 1831: “For behold, I shall say unto you that Zion shall flourish and the glory of the Lord shall be upon her, and she shall be an ensign to the people, and there shall come unto her out of every nation under heaven, and the day shall come when the nations of earth shall tremble because of her and shall fear because of her terrible ones. The Lord hath spoken it.”

 

About the time of this prophetic utterance the very few Saints moved from New York, where they first embraced the gospel, to Missouri and Ohio, where they established themselves in a commonwealth of thrift and industry.

 

Their faith in the Gospel of Jesus Christ as it was primitively with its apostles, prophets, seventies, elders, teachers and deacons, with its living blessing of the spirit of God, the gifts of healing, tongues, interpretation, revelation and prophecy, and all of the fundamental principles of the plan of salvation, faith, repentance, baptism for the remission of sins and the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost, together with the indispensable principles of divine authority; their faith in all these ancient and eternal truths made them unpopular, and in the eyes of “Christians” they were counted the most heretical and blasphemous mortals that ever claimed a place in the human family.

 

As they grew in numbers by the zealousness of their representatives, who eagerly proclaimed the restoration of the gospel, their enemies became more bitter and bold in their opposition.

 

Ministers of the prevalent Christian churches were vigorous and mean in their actions against the humble Elders who traveled Paul and Peter like, two by two, without purse or scrip. All kinds of libelous fabrications were set on foot against the Saints, which tended to make the feeling of hatred so strong against them that many of them were tarred and feathered, whipped, imprisoned, and made the subjects of everything in the category of indignities.

 

The civil officials refused to hear the cries for mercy and protection which constantly came from the lips of the suffering Saints, lest they be called sympathizers with the unpopular and lose their positions.

 

In 1834 the intense sentiment against the Saints culminated in their expulsion from Jackson county.

 

Mobs of men numbering hundreds, among whom masqueraded the local clergy, rushed down upon the people, driving them from their homes, burning their property, and injuring their bodies.

 

Lieut. Gov. L. W. Boggs said to some of the Saints at the outset of these outrages, “you know what our Jackson county boys can do and you had better leave the county.”

 

These savage attacks continued, and by advice of a certain judge, the Saints attempted to defend themselves, which only made matters worse. Enraged by this action, the mob leader, Col. Pitcher, turned his whole mass of savages upon the settlements of the defenseless Saints. “Out upon the bleak prairies, along the Missouri’s banks, chilled by November’s winds and drenched by pouring rains, hungry and shelterless, weeping and heart-broken, wandered the exiles. Families scattered and divided, husbands seeking wives, wives their husbands, parents searching for their children, not knowing if they were yet alive.”

 

Thus were about 15,000 souls driven from their homes and possessions in Jackson county. Three hundred houses were burned and ten settlements left in ruins.

 

The Pilgrims took refuge in the counties of Caldwell, Clay, Carroll and Daviess, where they settled again and in 1838 numbered about 12,000 souls.

 

At that time they were again molested by murderous mobs. They attempted to defend themselves and their action was interpreted by the aforesaid L. W. Boggs, who was then Governor, as treason, in consequence of which he ordered the state militia into service to quell the disturbances. The Saints appealed to him for mercy, but were answered by an edict of extermination, which was promptly executed by the mob and the state militia. During this savage onslaught numbers of the Saints were murdered in cold blood.

 

The exiles fled to Illinois and swelled the already growing city of Nauvoo in enormous numbers. Here they lived in peace and prosperity for 9 years, when again they were infested by their enemies, many of whom followed them from Missouri to their last retreat. So intensely overbearing and cruel became their oppressors that a committee was appointed to wait on President Van Buren for redress, but their reception was cold and their grievances answered by, “your cause is just, but I can do nothing for you.”

 

This encouraged the barbarous demons who lost no time in satisfying their blood-thirsty appetite. Their aim for years had been to kill the Prophet Joseph, whom they had dragged into court not less than thirty-nine times on trumped up charges for which he was as many times honorably acquitted.

 

But at last they succeeded with the threat, “if the law can’t reach him powder and ball shall.” They set to work, and on June 27, 1844, their threat materialized. The Prophet’s brother, Hyrum, also fell with him, a martyr to the cause of truth.

 

After this dastardly crime, for which all implicated were either acquitted or left unmolested, the fiends incarnate renewed their attacks on the Saints, burning and plundering their property on the outskirts of the city. Once more the oppressed sought redress from their Governor—Ford by name—but he gave them in return the same sympathetic expressions as President Van Buren: “Your cause is just, but I can do nothing for you.”

 

The people at Nauvoo now numbered upwards of 20,000 souls, comfortably situated and provided for. They minded their own business and lived exemplary lives, both as American citizens and as Saints of God.

 

To these people God was a living reality, whose arm was not shortened that He could not save nor His ear heavy that He could not hear. They enjoyed the gifts of the spirit of God, they knew the gospel in its primitive beauty and simplicity was true and that God had again restored it to man, and for this they were forced to succor the lance of savagery from the hands of boasted Christians and professed Americans, who patriotically unfurled the flag of freedom and liberty in one hand and wantonly tied the chains of oppression and barbarism around the necks of their neighbors with the other. Oh, such heinous mockery! What a blasphemous insult to American principle and what a sacrilegious indignity upon the pure humane gospel of Jesus Christ!

 

So strong and cruel became the public sentiment against the Saints of Nauvoo that in the month of February, 1846 they were, under the penalty of massacre and pillage, forced to leave their possessions and flee into the wilderness beyond the Mississippi for safety.

 

Pressed at the point of the bayonet, they fled from their hard-earned and comfortable homes just in time to see them consumed by the flames. Chilled by Siberian blasts and pursued by Christian mobs they fled into the desert to die from the hands of the native savage, to succumb to the calls of starvation or to survive both by the almighty power of their God above.

 

The Saints were now banished from civilization and without any means of support, save that which was voluntarily provided, and truly it seemed that their doom was sealed.

 

It seemed that to make sure of their annihilation, President John Tyler sent a United States officer after the fleeing exiles with a demand for 500 men to assist in the Mexican war, which had recently been declared.

 

This was adding insult to injury.

 

The Saints had been scornfully refused protection by the government which now demanded their assistance for defense, and this too, just at a time when their helpless and starving wives and children needed no father’s care and protection. That notwithstanding this they obeyed the call, relying upon God for justice and for mercy in their behalf. Here is a picture to behold. Imagine these shelterless and starving pilgrims, dragged from the comforts of home, scourged with adversity, robbed of their possessions; many of their number martyred (among them their leader and prophet), without food and without means and dumped into the frozen lap of the wilderness; ignored by their government and ostracized by the Christians (and all because of their religion). Imagine this multitude of weeping and heart-broken wives and children, scores of whom were sick from exposure or wounded by their enemies; fathers whose pitious faces revealed their burdens of grief, which lay heavily within their noble breasts. What a spectacle of suffering humanity, surrounded on one side by a dreary waste, which promised starvation, and on the other by a Christian mob who thirsted for their life’s blood.

 

Picture yourself, oh reader, among these forlorn and oppressed children of God. Listen to those piteous sobs, behold those tear-stained cheeks, look into those eyes that have known no rest, no sleep, since their loved ones fell the victims of barbarism and savagery—and that, too, at the hands of professed American Christians.

 

Cast your eyes upon those manly forms who were now kissing their loved ones a fond farewell before departing for war. Does not this picture touch the sympathetic cords in your heart? Does not the courage and loyalty stamped upon the brows of those noble men win your admiration and cause you to exclaim with me: “Oh, liberty and love, freedom and charity, thy precious names dwell not in the heart of modern Christianity?”

 

Under such threatening circumstances as these the prosperity of Zion was indeed promising. What a glorious facsimile in Zion for the nations of the earth. How the powers of the world must tremble because of her, and what an exemplar to the nations. Ah, indel! Did I insinuate? Pardon, I did these noble pilgrims wrong. Never in the history of humanity have the manly traits of courage, of patience, of love, of charity and loyalty, and above all the God-given characteristic of true and sincere devotion to Deity, been exhibited in such admiration as they were in the lives of these rejected and oppressed Latter Day Saints, unless it was when the saints of old for the same religion, sweated beneath the same yoke of tyranny and cruelty, which was thrust upon them by similar inhuman savages, who masquerade beneath the cloak of religion.

 

From the above discussion it is clear that Zion was upon the very brink of destruction, which made the fulfillment of the prophet’s prediction a question.

 

Let us see the condition of Zion today and her relation to the world.

 

In seventy years the numbers of Zion’s people have swelled from six to approximately 850,000, among part of whom in 1887 there were representatives from twenty-four different nations and these, too, in the valleys of the Rockies.

 

Magnificent and productive farms with their luxurious fruits and abundant grains now carpet the valleys of the great western plateaus. Beautiful dwellings, spacious and comfortable school houses, churches and factories dot the desert, forming towns and cities, whose prosperity, thrift, industry and progression all unite in one common bond. Ninety-nine per cent. of the Saints own their own homes. Only 8 per cent. of them over 10 years of age, as compared with 18 per cent. in the United States, are unable to read or write. Up until 1870 not a brothel nor a saloon was known among them and then it was introduced by their Christian neighbors of the east. In 1881 there were sixty-six saloons in Salt Lake City, sixty of which were run by non-Mormons. There were fifteen billiard and seventeen bowling rooms, all kept by non-Mormons; there were six brothels with thirty-five women, all run by non-Mormons, and not a Mormon woman among them. All of these statistics together with the courage and perseverance of the Saints exhibited by them in subduing the desert, and moreover, their stability and gallantry in the defense of their country, (in the Philippi engagements hundreds of Mormon boys who frankly and bravely fought in the front ranks of battle and meritoriously won the admiration of the whole nation), all this evidence declares that Zion is prospering and that she is an ensign to the world.

 

The miraculous and sacrificing lives of her 1,800 Elders, who journey forth, without price, teaching the pure and simple truths of our Master for the uplifting of humanity, are worthy of emulation.

 

And whether it be openly admitted or not by the Christian world, it is nevertheless a fact that Mormonism, so-called, has found its way more or less into nearly every Christian denomination on earth.

 

The Elders of today do not meet so many who hold to that boundless and merciless hell, where sinners guilty of all degrees of crime, from the slightest offense to that of the deepest dye, are consigned alike to an ever-burning and never-ending punishment; neither do they meet so many who denounce modern revelation and the extraordinary gifts of the Spirit and many other principles of the original Gospel of Jesus, showing that the Christian world is, in part at least, patterning after Zion in believing these divine truths.

 

As to the part of the prediction quoted concerning the trembling of the nations, I would say it has not yet had a complete verification; hence I shall not endeavor to establish its fulfillment, but shall merely make reference to some facts in history and daily occurrence, which will at least be indicative of its literal fulfillment.

 

In some of the eastern countries the local officials have prohibited the Elders from preaching and also from distributing their literature. This also is true in not a few cities in the United States.

 

The actions of this government and many of its high officials toward the Saints present a strong testimony of the promised literal fulfillment of the Prophets’ prediction. Let us see. During all of the severe persecutions of the Saints in Missouri, Ohio and Illinois, the government was made to believe that the Mormon people were anarchists and consequently dangerous to the government, for the which they received no protection.

 

In 1857 an official army was sent to destroy them in their newly made homes in the mountains because the government feared the commonwealth of the Saints. In 1852 their church property was confiscated by the government.

 

Time and time again Utah applied for admission into the Union, but was refused not because she was feeble in the necessary requirements for statehood, for these her qualifications were far superior to many of her sisters who were admitted, but she was refused simply because she was “Mormon,” and this meant danger to the government in the eyes of the people and their representatives. What motive other than that of fear could have inspired such unjust actions as these in the heart of the government?

 

And this is not all. What is it that inspires the present crusade against the Saints? You answer, their polygamous connection. Emasculate? And if this be true, pray tell why all of the petitions to congress against him and all of the anti-Roberts congressional speeches contained as much, yea more, strong opposition against the “Mormon” Church than against Utah’s congressman? What would there be in Manning’s blackballing the whole Catholic institution because she believed one of its members to be in disagreement to English principles? Absolutely none! Then what need has there been for said crusade against the whole “Mormon” people simply because one of its member found disfavour in the eyes of the government? Absolutely none! The fact of the matter is simply this: the growth and prosperity of Zion is as repugnant to the bureaucratic and inattentive legislators, whose blind, bigoted and unsympathetic to the ring of Americanism than to the whisperings of American and Christian principle; and whose degree of religion varies with the size of their salaries. These are they who arouse the nation against us and incite the masses to cry out in holy horror against the Saints; and it is through the instrumentality of those professors (not pastors) of divinity that such un-American and un-Christian resolutions are introduced into the halls of Liberty and Justice as were recommended in the governor’s message to the Mississippi legislature recently, and as are now being agitated by the law-makers of South Carolina, the purposes of which are to withdraw all protection from “Mormons” and leave them at the mercy of infuriated and beastly mobs, whose dastardly and cowardly deeds are born in a “Christian” heart and made inalienable by corrupt American dignitaries. There are they who inspire fear in the heart of the government and cruelties against the Saints; these are they who inspire hatred against the Mormon missionaries which not infrequently exhibits itself in halls of pious zeal where fathered lewd injuries upon the Elders and who in times past have stained the pure tresses of Liberty with the innocent blood of Saints.

 

Church than against Utah’s congressman? What would there be in Manning’s blackballing the whole Catholic institution because she believed one of its members to be in disagreement to English principles? Absolutely none! Then what need has there been for such a crusade against the whole “Mormon” people simply because one of its member found disfavour in the eyes of the government? Absolutely none! The fact of the matter is simply this: the growth and prosperity of Zion is as repugnant to the bureaucratic and inattentive legislators, whose blind, bigoted and unsympathetic leaders are six times more susceptible to the ring of Americanism than to the whisperings of American and Christian principle; and whose degree of religion varies with the size of their salaries. These are they who arouse the nation against us and incite the masses to cry out in holy horror against the Saints; and it is through the instrumentality of those professors (not pastors) of divinity that such un-American and un-Christian resolutions are introduced into the halls of Liberty and Justice as were recommended in the governor’s message to the Mississippi legislature recently, and as are now being agitated by the law-makers of South Carolina, the purposes of which are to withdraw all protection from “Mormons” and leave them at the mercy of infuriated and beastly mobs, whose dastardly and cowardly deeds are born in a “Christian” heart and made inalienable by corrupt American dignitaries. There are they who inspire fear in the heart of the government and cruelties against the Saints; these are they who inspire hatred against the Mormon missionaries which not infrequently exhibits itself in halls of pious zeal where fathered lewd injuries upon the Elders and who in times past have stained the pure tresses of Liberty with the innocent blood of Saints.

 

After reading the above one cannot help seeing how remarkably the prediction of the Prophet Joseph Smith has been fulfilled. (Jeremiah Stokes, Jr., “Prophecy Fulfilled,” Latter Day Saints Southern Star 2, no. 18 [March 31, 1900], 142-43)

 

Further Reading:

 

Resources on Joseph Smith's Prophecies

 

David H. Elton on John 19:30 in the July 14, 1900 issue of the Latter Day Saints Southern Star

  

Our Savior having completed His mission on earth; having been subjected to much pain, sorrow and grief; having been suspended between the heavens and the earth, nailed to Calvary’s cross, on Golgotha’s dreary heights; having bowed His sacred head and exclaimed—while the body was racked with intense agony, and the mind sorely distressed—“It is finished” (thus signifying that the birth of salvation was completed and His earthly mission ended), . . . (David H. Elton, “God’s Greatest Gift,” Latter Day Saints Southern Star 2, no. 33 [July 14, 1900], 258, emphasis in bold added)

 

 

Further Reading:

 

Full Refutation of the Protestant Interpretation of John 19:30

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