Friday, January 3, 2020

Old Testament Instances of "Name" Being Used for Multiple Persons


Some Trinitarian apologists point to the singular “name” in Matt 28:19 as evidence for three persons in one being, per later creedal formulations. For a discussion, see, for e.g., Answering "God Loves Mormons" on The Trinity. Interestingly, in the Old Testament, both the Hebrew and LXX use the singular “name” for multiple persons and gods who, undoubtedly, did not share a singular name. Consider:

Male and female he created them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. (Gen 5:2)

And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of the other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth. (Exo 23:13)

But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. (Deut 18:20)

That ye come among these nations, these that remain among you; neither make mention of the name of their gods, nor cause to swear by them, neither serve them, nor bow yourselves unto them. (Josh 23:7)

And the name of them man was Elimelch, and the name of his wife Naomi, and the name of his two sons Mahlon and Chilion, Ephrathites of Bethlehemjudah. And they came into the country of Moab, and continued there. (Ruth 1:2)



In Defense of Truth (2004)


The Hard-to-Find Mormon Videos youtube page just posted an interesting video which would be of interest to those engaged in apologetics:




Many leading LDS scholars (e.g., Laurel Thatcher Ulrich; Daniel Peterson; Richard Bushman) are interviewed about topics such as the First Vision. The video is described thusly:

This BYU presentation gives a believer's point of view on the teachings of the LDS Church.  Testimonies of common mainstream Church members complement those of scholars who have made LDS beliefs their professional study.

(note: although the youtube page has it as being from 2004, per the copyright within the video itself, the video was released in 1995)

Thursday, January 2, 2020

Did Ignatius of Antioch Teach Sola Fide?



In a rather desperate attempt to show the earliest Christian writings support Sola Fide, Matthew Paulson wrote the following about Ignatius of Antioch and his soteriology:

Ignatius writes during a time of heavy persecution of Christianity about 80 years after the resurrection of Christ. He encourages Christians to strive with the tools for Christian service, “Let your baptism endure as your arms; your faith as your helmet; your love as your spear; your patience as a complete panoply [i.e. something that covers and protects]. Let your works be the charge assigned to you, that ye may receive a worthy recompense” (Peterson and Ricks, Offenders for a Word, p. 144). Peterson and Ricks quotes Ignatius explaining works and rewards but neglect to mention the tools which are baptism, faith, love, and patience. These are not works, per se, but they are essential attitudes of Christian while works are performed. Does Ignatius believe salvation is a “pay-back” or reward from the efforts of Christians? Not at all.

While writing to Polycarp, Ignatius advocates that fellow Christians need to be “at leisure” ready for the service of God which he calls “both God’s and yours” (Ignatius to Polycarp, Chapter 7). This is strange advice if works are essential to salvation. Of course, Ignatius believes that God will reward Christians for their efforts. He recommends, “Labour together with one another, strive in company together, run together; suffer together; sleep together; and awake together, as the stewards, and associates, and servants of God. Please ye Him under whom ye fight, and from whom ye receive your wages” (Ibid.) However, Ignatius never explicitly posits that his works produce salvation. His statements are about rewards in eternity for Christian service, not works for salvation. In contrast Ignatius rebuked those who were Judaizers saying, “For if, until now, we live after the rule of Judaism, we confess that we have not received grace” (Epistle to the Magnesians, Chapter 8).

Also, Ignatius does relate his salvation to athletics and receiving a prize of a resurrected body and eternal life. He advises, “Be temperate, as God’s athlete. The prize is incorruption and life eternal, concerning which also you have been persuaded” (Epistle to Polycarp, chapter 2). This prize would be the same as the Apostle Pau’s prize, being that it is “for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus,” (Phil. 3:14). Because of the prize, they are called unto consists of things above, where Jesus is, and is the hope laid up in heaven, (Col. 1:5), and the inheritance reserved there, (1 Pet. 1:4). Moreover, the rewards or “back-pays” would be the result of storing up treasures in heaven, (Matt. 19:21). Rewards for service are not the removal of sins nor salvation. These rewards are essentially unexplained benefits distributed in eternity. (Matthew A. Paulson, Breaking the Mormon Code: A Critique of Mormon Scholarship Regarding Classic Christian Theology and the Book of Mormon [Livermore, Calif.: WingSpan Press, 2006, 2009], 164-65)

This is only representative of the shoddy patristic scholarship and exegesis in Paulson’s book. When one reads Ignatius’ authentic letters in their entirety, one will see that, while Ignatius did not believe works outside of God’s grace can save, those done by a saved person were efficacious and meritorious. The “all works are bad” approach, common in Protestantism, blinds Paulson and his eisegesis. Consider the following from the authentic epistles of Ignatius:

Let no man deceive himself; if any one be not within the altar, he is deprived of the bread of God.... Do ye beloved, be careful to be subject to the bishop, and the presbyters and the deacons. For he that is subject to these is obedient to Christ, who has appointed them; but he that he is disobedient to these is disobedient to Christ Jesus. And "he that obeyeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him." (Letter to the Ephesians, 5)

Stand fast, brethren, in the faith of Jesus Christ, and in his love, in his passion, and in his resurrection. Do ye all come together in common, and individually, through grace, in one faith of God the Father, and of Jesus Christ, his only-begotten Son, and "the first-born of every creature, but of the seed of David according to the flesh, being under the guidance of the Comforter, in obedience to the bishop and the presbytery with an undivided mind, breaking one and the same bread, which is the medicine of immortality, and the antidote which prevents us from dying, but a cleansing remedy driving away evil, (which causes) that we should live in God through Jesus Christ. (Letter to the Ephesians, 20)

Seeing then, all things have an end, there is set before us life upon our observance of God's precepts, but death as the result of disobedience, and every one, according to the choice he makes, shall go to his own place, let us flee from death, and make choice of life. The truly devout man is the right kind of coin, stamped by God himself. The ungodly man, again, is false coin, unlawful, spurious, counterfeit, wrought not by God, but by the devil. I do not mean to say that there are two different human natures, but that there is one humanity, sometimes belonging to God, and sometimes to the devil. If any one is truly religious, he is a man of God; but if he is irreligious, he is a man of the devil, made such, not by nature, but by his own choice. The unbelieving bear the image of the prince of wickedness. The believing possess the image of their Prince, God the Father, and Jesus Christ, through whom, if we are not in readiness to die for the truth into his passion, his life is not in us. (Letter to the Magnesians, 5, emphasis added)

Be pleasing to him whose soldiers you are, and whose pay you receive. May none of you be found to be a deserter. Let your baptism be your armament, your faith your helmet, your love your spear, your endurance your full suit of armor. Let your works be as your deposited withholdings, so that you may receive the back-pay which has accrued to you. (Letter to Polycarp 6.2)

The term translated as "your deposited withholdings" is δεποσιτα (whence "deposit"), with such works being said to be "worthy" (αξιος) of an ακκεπτα (the back pay; alt. "recompense"), which, per BDAG, refers to "military finance: a sum credited to a Roman soldier and paid upon his discharge." Contra Paulson, Ignatius is teaching gracious merit, not simply that good works are merely the outward evidence/fruit of one being in a saved state.

As for chapter 7 of Ignatius’ letter to Polycarp, Ignatius is not teaching sola fide. What Ignatius is saying is that, as a result of God, he s without earth cares (rather important as he was on his way to martyrdom), but even then, did not believe he was eternally secure:

Seeing that the Church which is at Antioch in Syria is, as report has informed me, at peace, through your prayers, I also am the more encouraged, resting without anxiety in God, if indeed by means of suffering I may attain to God, so that, through your prayers, I may be found a disciple [of Christ]. It is fitting, O Polycarp, most blessed in God, to assemble a very solemn council, and to elect one whom you greatly love, and know to be a man of activity, who may be designated the messenger of God; and to bestow on him this honour that he may go into Syria, and glorify your ever active love to the praise of Christ. A Christian has not power over himself, but must always be ready for the service of God. Now, this work is both God's and yours, when ye shall have completed it to His glory. For I trust that, through grace, ye are prepared for every good work pertaining to God. Knowing, therefore, your energetic love of the truth, I have exhorted you by this brief Epistle.

Seeing that the Church which is at Antioch in Syria is, as report has informed me, at peace, through your prayers, I also am the more encouraged, resting without anxiety in God, if indeed by means of suffering I may attain to God, so that, through your prayers, I may be found a disciple [of Christ]. It is fitting, O Polycarp, most blessed in God, to assemble a very solemn council, and to elect one whom you greatly love, and know to be a man of activity, who may be designated the messenger of God; and to bestow on him the honour of going into Syria, so that, going into Syria, he may glorify your ever active love to the praise of God. A Christian has not power over himself, but must always be ready for the service of God. Now, this work is both God's and yours, when ye shall have completed it. For I trust that, through grace, ye are prepared for every good work pertaining to God. Knowing your energetic love of the truth, I have exhorted you by this brief Epistle. (Epistle to Polycarp, VII [ANF 1:96])

Note how Ignatius says that "if indeed by means of suffering I may attain to God, so that, through your prayers, I may be found a disciple of Christ" (ἐάνπερ διὰ τοῦ παθεῖν θεοῦ ἐπιτύχω, εἰς τὸ εὑρεθῆναί με ἐν τῇ ἀναστάσει ὑμῶν μαθητήν [alt. have become more eager to be found your disciple in the resurrection, if indeed I attain to God through suffering [Ehrman]).

It should also be noted that Ignatius taught baptismal regeneration:

For our God, Jesus Christ, was, according to the appointment of God, conceived in the womb of Mary, of the seed of David, but by the Holy Ghost. He was born and baptized, that by His passion He might purify the water. (To the Ephesians 18:2)

. . . He was truly born of a virgin, was baptized by John, in order that all righteousness might be fulfilled by Him; (To the Smyrnaeans 1:1)

Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude |of the people¦ also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not lawful without the bishop either to baptize or to celebrate a love-feast; but whatsoever he shall approve of, that is also pleasing to God, so that everything that is done may be secure and valid. (To the Smyrnaeans 8:2)


Ignatius lived from approximately 30 to 107 AD and was the Bishop of Antioch in his later life. According to tradition he was a disciple of the Apostle John, along with Polycarp. In the last year of his life, he presented himself before the Emperor Trajan as a professing Christian and was sentenced to death by exposure to wild beasts. On the way to Rome for his execution he wrote the seven letters which are today considered authentically Ignatian (CCEL Intro. Ignatius Ephesians).

In Ignatius' epistles to the Ephesians and Smyrnaeans, there are concepts of baptismal regeneration in relation to Jesus' own baptism. Ignatius writes in the former that Christ "was born and baptized, that by His passion He might purify the water." (CCEL Ignatius, Ephesians:XVIII) According to William Schoedel's commentary on Ignatius, this somewhat magical idea as well as the connection between Christ's baptism and passion were well known and traditional concepts in the early church (W. Schoedel. Ignatius of Antioch. Philadelphia: Fortress. 1985:85). To the Smyrnaeans Ignatius writes, quoting Mat 3:15, that Christ "was baptized by John, in order that all righteousness might be fulfilled by Him…" (CCEL Ignatius, Smyrnaeans:I) This does not speak directly of purifying the water, but still connects Christ's baptism with his fulfillment of God's plan for righteousness - a salvific plan. In both contexts, Ignatius is not directly addressing baptism, but states these ideas in relation to Christ in a creedal fashion. This implies they were assumed as common Christian knowledge.

Elsewhere in Ignatius' letters he makes a strong case for the authority of the bishop. In relation to this authority, he dictates that neither baptism nor the celebration of the Lord's Supper were to be done without the administration of a bishop or his agent (CCEL Ignatius, Smyrnaeans:VIII; CCEL Ignatius, Trallians:II3). Schoedel notes a plausible suggestion by Elze that Ignatius is "applying a recognized rule … taken for granted in the case of baptism." (Schoedel 1985:244) While these texts do not directly reveal the nature of baptism in the early church, they do exhibit its traditional nature (Schoedel 1985:276) and great importance as one of the two main rites of the early church.

With respect to Jesus being baptised to fulfil all righteousness in the Gospels (and Ignatius), we read the following from NathanEubank which affirms the salvific efficacy of water baptism:


I would like to propose another interpretation of πληροω, one that has rarely been considered: that of filling up something. The phrase would then be translated “to fill up all righteousness.” Matthew himself uses the word this way in 13:48 to refer to a fish-net becoming full, and 23:32 when Jesus tells the scribes and Pharisees to “fill up” (πληρωσατε) the measure of [their] fathers.” According to this proposal, “filling up all righteousness” would be the exact inverse of the filling up of the scribes and Pharisees; they fill up the measure of sin, but Jesus and John the Baptist fill up the measure of righteousness. I shall provide three main arguments for this rendering:

First main argument: for Matthew, righteousness is something that can be “filled up” because righteousness deeds earn wages that are stored up in heavenly treasuries. In 6:1, or instance, Jesus says, “take care not to do your righteousness before people in order to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no wage with your Father who is in the heaven (μισθὸν οὐκ ἔχετε παρὰ τῷ πατρὶ ὑμῶν τῷ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς).” . . . . the words μισθὸν οὐκ ἔχετε παρὰ τῷ πατρὶ ὑμῶν τῷ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς are commonly translated “you will have no reward from your Father in heaven,” thereby obscuring the fact that Matthew describes divine wages as (1) existing already in the present time rather than only in the future, and (2) with God in heave, stored up to be repaid at the return of the Son of Man. The description of heavenly treasures that follows reinforces the point:

Do not treasure up for yourselves treasures on earth (Μὴ θησαυρίζετε ὑμῖν θησαυροὺς ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς), where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal. Rather, treasure up for yourselves treasures in heaven (θησαυρίζετε δὲ ὑμῖν θησαυροὺς ἐν οὐρανῷ), where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in nor steal. For where your treasures is, there also will be your heart (ὅπου γάρ ἐστιν ὁ θησαυρός σου, ἐκεῖ ἔσται καὶ ἡ καρδία σου). (6:19-21).

The focus here is on the location of one’s treasure, whether earth or heaven. It is better to stockpile treasures “in heaven” because heavenly treasuries are safe from corruption and theft. Similarly, in chapter 19 Jesus tells the rich young man: “If you wish to be perfect, go, sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.” The young man refuses to acquire this heavenly treasure because he cannot bear to lose all that he has stockpiled on earth . . . Second main argument: . . . Matthew uses πληροω in the way suggested here, but in reference to sin rather than righteousness. In 23:32 Jesus ironically tells his opponents to “fill up (πληρωσατε) the measure of [their] fathers” and so receive the punishment for all the righteous blood that has been shred since Abel . . . the measure in 23:32 is, like the measure in 7:2, a measure that records the amount that is owed. When Jesus tells the scribes and Pharisees to “fill up the measure of your fathers,” he ironically tells them to bring the debt of their fathers to its limit, the point at which the creditor can tolerate it no more and steps in to collect that is due. Both 3;15 and 23:32 employ the spatial image of “filling up,” but in 23:32, it is the “measure” (μετρον) for recording the debt of sin . . . A narrative link has often been observed between 23:32 and the preaching of John the Baptist. In 3:7-12 John (A) calls the Pharisees and Sadducees “a brood of vipers” (γεννηματα εχιδνων), (B) asks them rhetorically “Who told you to flee from the coming wrath?”, and (C) warns them that they will not escape the coming wrath simply by relying on the fact that Abraham is their father. They must “bear fruit worthy of repentance” because God is able to raise up children of Abraham from stones (3:8-9). In other words, it is not biology that determines paternity but deeds. The question of paternity and the coming judgment is also at stake in 23:31-33, where Jesus (A) calls the scribes and Pharisees a brood of vipers (γεννηματα εχιδνων), (B) asks rhetorically, “How will you escape the judgment of Gehenna?”, and (C) warns them that their actions show that they are the children (not of Abraham but) of those who murdered the prophets, as their coming complicity in Jesus’ own death shows. In short, 23:31-33 harks back to John the Baptist standing in the wilderness of Judea, thereby strengthening the connection between these two “filling-up” sayings . . . Third main argument: Matthew describes Jesus’ saving activity as a payment on behalf of others in the so-called “ransom saying” in 20:28 . . . it must be noted that, regardless of the pre-Matthean history of the saying, the description of Jesus’ gift of his life as a ransom-price (λυτρον) fits hand in glove with Matthew’s grammar of sin and righteousness. For Matthew sin is thought of as debt, and Jesus was born to save his people from their sins. I propose that it is not a coincidence that this saving activity is described as a payment; Jesus gives his life as a ransom-price to pay the debt of “the many.” (Nathan Eubank, Wages of Cross-Bearing and Debt of Sin: The Economy of Heaven in Matthew’s Gospel [Berlin: Walter de Gruyter, 2013], 124-26, 127-28, 129)

If Eubank’s thesis holds up, it will be significant, as it shows that Jesus’ baptism was not merely symbolic, but had great soteriological value, as his water baptism “filled up” righteousness, a righteousness that it is not a merely imputed righteousness, but an intrinsic one, not just in the Gospels but also Ignatius who is quoting from Matt 3:15 (cf. Maximus of Turin [early 5th century], who stated that Christ was baptised to make the water [of baptism] holy, echoing the earlier words of Ignatius of Antioch quoted above), 


Finally, on the apostle Paul’s use of athletic terminology and imagery, such refutes Paulson’s claims, not supports them. How so? Note the following from 1 Cor 9:27, in the context of Paul using such concepts:

No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize. (NIV)

The term translated as “disqualified” is αδοκιμος and means “reprobate.” As one Lutheran scholar wrote about this term and the context it is used in:

This term implies that a test is made, and that whatever stands the test is accepted as δόκιμος, whatever fails to stand the test is rejected as ἀδόκιμος and is thrown out, cast away. The two adjectives and the cognate verb and the noun are frequently used with reference to ancient coins which were always weighed and otherwise carefully tested; the genuine and the full-weight coins were accepted as “proven,” the others were rejected as “disproven.” C.-K. 357.

What a calamity when a professing Christian finds himself “rejected” in the end! How much worse when one of the Lord’s own heralds has this experience! Paul regards his work and even the way in which he does his work with extreme seriousness. The fact that he is an apostle is not yet proof to him that he will be saved. He knows the test that he must face. He applies that test to himself in this chapter and so attains both the subjective and the objective certainty that he will indeed not be a castaway. (R. C. H. Lenski, The Interpretation of St. Paul’s First and Second Epistle to the Corinthians [Minneapolis:: Augsburg Publishing House, 1963], 388)

As we see, Ignatius did not teach Sola Fide and Latter-day Saints are on sound patristic footing in rejecting this man-made doctrine. It is Paulson’s theology, not LDS theology, that is at odds with Ignatius of Antioch’s soteriology.


For previous refutations of Paulson's Breaking the Mormon Code, see:

Listing of articles responding to "Breaking the Mormon Code" 

Matthew Paulson Shoots Himself in the Foot about "Mormonism" (and Christianity) being a "Cult"


Matthew Paulson in Breaking the Mormon Code, in an attempt to claim “Mormonism” is a “cult,” wrote the following:

The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language provides six characteristics of groups that are classified as “cults”:

1. The followers of such a religion or sect.
2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
4. A usually nonscientific method of regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
5. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing the object of such devotion.
6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest. 
(Matthew A. Paulson, Breaking the Mormon Code: A Critique of Mormon Scholarship Regarding Classic Christian Theology and the Book of Mormon [Livermore, Calif.: WingSpan Press, 2006, 2009], 204)

The problem with this definition of “cult” is that Protestantism would fall under the category, and most other faiths too. Paulson, using this definition of “cult” would be a member of such a group. Consider:

#1: Paulson is a follower of Protestantism and claims to follow the person of Jesus of Nazareth
#2-3: He belongs to a group that engages in religious worship and ritual, such as the Lord’s Supper and water baptism
#4: Protestantism believes in the “internal witness” of the Spirit vis-à-vis the self-authentication of the Bible, such as the Westminster Confession of Faith. For more, see the section “A Self-Attesting, Self-Authenticating, Formally Sufficient Scripture?” in Not By Scripture Alone: A Latter-day Saint Refutation of Sola Scriptura
#5: Paulson believes one is to worship the person of Jesus Christ; indeed, on p. 198, he condemns as non-Christian anyone who does not worship Jesus en par with, and alongside with, the Father.
#6: According to Paulson, there is no salvation outside his (theologically-driven) understanding of “Christian.” Furthermore, he and others within this sliver of Christianity produce many books, article, tracts, youtube videos, etc., defending tenets of their faith and critiques of tenets of other groups.

Interestingly, Paulson further shoots himself in the foot with the following:

It would be shown that Christianity has the same characteristics of a cult. In fact, Judaism has declared Christianity a “cult” Judaism has the prerogative, because Christianity grew out of Judaism. Likewise, Mormonism grew out of classical Christianity. Thus, Christianity reserves the same right to describe Mormonism as a non-Christian church or cult. (Ibid.)

In other words, Paulson admits that (1) his definition of “cult” can be used to describe any religious movement and (2) being honest and consistent, Christianity (as defined by Paulson) is a “cult” too.

For more, see:

Mormonism as "Cult": The Limits of Lexical Polemics in Daniel C. Peterson and Stephen D. Ricks, Offenders for a Word: How Anti-Mormons Play Word Games to Attack the Latter-day Saints




Tears and Other Emotions in Penitential Practices and Rites


Latter-day Saints are often accused of appealing more to emotion than to intellect (such a charge is made by hypocritical critics such as Mike and Ann Thomas, the latter who converted to Protestantism as she got emotional during a Protestant service[!!!]—see Anti-Mormon Hypocrisy and Emotion-driven "Conversions" to Evangelical Protestantism; cf. the discussion of the internal witness of the Holy Spirit in Not by Scripture Alone: A Latter-day Saint Refutation of Sola Scriptura and the discussion of the LDS testimony by Jeff Lindsay here)

In a book on the development of Purgatory, Isabel Moreira noted how tears and other emotional reactions were part-and-parcel of the penitential process and an instrumental means of being allowed to participate again in religious services:

“Doing” penance (paenitentia agree) required the sinner to purify himself through various acts, external and internal. These included external activities such as good works, especially almsgiving and self-mortification, and internal ones such as prayer, recollection of vices, weeping, and groaning. “Prayer, fasting, and tears are the resources of the honest debtor,” wrote Ambrose (On Repentance, 2.9.81). Fasts were required of all Christians at various times in the Church’s calendar, but penitential fasts were supposed to be supererogatory and sufficiently severe to mortify the flesh. There were probably few who could contemplate it with Prudentius’s relish: “Surely there is nothing purer than this rite by which the heart’s tissues are cleansed and such revived and the undisciplined body is compelled to sweat so that fat will not constrict our minds and choke our souls with the foulness of its stench” (Prudentius, Hymn Before Fasting).

Prayer was at the heart of the Christian’s connection to God. From the careful structure of the Lord’s Prayer to the interior “wordless” prayer of ecstatic contemplation, prayer was supposed to be constant and unending. Drawing on 1 Timothy 2:1, ascetic literature recognized and ranked four types of prayer: supplications, prayers (sometimes interpreted as a “vows” or “pledges”), intercessions, and thanksgivings (Cassian, Conferences, 9.9.1). Constant prayer was the ideal held out to monks who might engage in these different kinds of prayer at different stages in their spiritual careers and according to specific circumstances. Supplications and prayers were related to the monk’s own spiritual needs, especially sorrow for past vices and fear of future judgment. Prayers of intercession and thanksgiving moved the monk to identify with the broader needs of the Christian community, and finally to achieve pure, fiery, wordless prayer that sparked interior illumination.

Tears and groans were expected to adorn prayers of every sort, although they should not be so loud that they disrupt and prayers of others. Tears evoked baptismal cleansing. Quoting one of the penitential psalms, Cassian stated that “forgiveness of sins is obtained by the shedding of tears, for ‘every night I will wash my bed; I will sprinkle my resting place with tears’” (Cassian, Conferences, 20.8.1. Quoting Psalm 6.7). And Ambrose had written that “he shall be saved in the future who has wept most in this age” (Ambrose, On Repentance, 2.6.51). While providing an obvious image of purification by analogy with baptism, tears were also an outward sign of compunction, a spiritual state produced when “the thorn of sinfulness pricks our heart” (Cassian, Conferences 9.29.1; see 9.28-30 for a discussion of tears).

When the bishop was satisfied that the penitential remedy was complete, the sinner was absolved of his sin and could once again approach the altar. (Isabel Moreira, Heaven's Purge: Purgatory in Late Antiquity [New York: Oxford University Press, 2010], 103-4)


Matthew Y. Emerson on 1 Peter 3:19


With respect to 1 Pet 3:19, while rejecting the interpretation that Jesus is preaching to the spirits in Hades, Baptist Matthew Emerson wrote the following about why many of his fellow Protestants have conflicting interpretations of this passage:

One wonders if the modern evangelical notion of “gospel,” focused almost exclusively on the salvation of individual souls rather than on Christ’s holistic work in his death and resurrection, is to blame for this consternation over 1 Pet 3:19. If we define the gospel first and foremost as what Christ did, namely that he died, remained dead, and rose in such a way that he atoned for the sins of those who believe and achieved victory over all earthly and heavenly powers, then it is not such a problem that Christ “preached the gospel” to the spirits. In fact, he did preach the gospel—the good news that he has atoned for sin and thereby vanquished the powers of evil in his work. (Matthew Y. Emerson, "He Descended to the Dead": An Evangelical Theology of Holy Saturday [Downers Grove, Ill.: InterVarsity Press, 2019], 63 n. 143)

Latter-day Saint Scripture allows for both the preaching of the gospel including a proclamation of Jesus’ victory as part-and-parcel of the preaching to the dead, particularly D&C 138, a vision received by Joseph F. Smith. In this text, we read of how the dead were awaiting Jesus’ atonement which would bring about their redemption from death itself, and such is part of Christ’s “everlasting gospel” (vv. 16, 19), and in v. 23, we read:

And the saints rejoiced in their redemption, and bowed the knee and acknowledged the Son of God as their Redeemer and Deliverer from death and the chains of hell.

Latter-day Saints, due to our acceptance of modern revelation and rejection of the false Protestant doctrine of Sola Scriptura, does not have to engage in such "either-or" approaches to biblical texts and doctrinal issues; for us, it is "both-and." On this central issue, see


On 1 Pet 3:19 and the verb κηρυσσω, and whether it means "to preach [the gospel]" or merely "to proclaim," see:

Responding to critics of Latter-day Saint theology about the meaning of κηρύσσω in 1 Peter 3:19

Wednesday, January 1, 2020

Anti-Mormon Author Admits that Non-LDS Scholars Agree with LDS Interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:29


One anti-Mormon author, while attempting to critique the Latter-day Saint practise of baptism for the dead, was forced into conceding that much of contemporary non-LDS scholarship accepts the LDS interpretation of 1 Cor 15:29:

Admittedly, many Christian scholars have supported the Mormon interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:29. Lutheran scholar Krister Stendahl, Protestant scholar Gordon Fee, and historian Raymond E. Brown have shown some agreement with Mormon interpretation of a proxy water baptism for the dead. Brown has claimed that “some Christians would undergo baptism in the name of their deceased non-Christian relatives and friends, hoping this vicarious baptism might assure them a share in the redemption of Christ.” (Matthew A. Paulson, Breaking the Mormon Code: A Critique of Mormon Scholarship Regarding Classic Christian Theology and the Book of Mormon [Livermore, Calif.: WingSpan Press, 2006, 2009], 122)

Listing of articles responding to "Breaking the Mormon Code"

Blog Archive