Sunday, March 22, 2026

Transcription of Joel King Noble, Letter to Jonathan B. Turner, March 8, 1842

 I was just asked about this letter. There is a partial transcription (with the entire document scanned) at:

 

Joel King Noble to Jonathan B. Turner, March 8, 1842, John B. Turner Papers, Correspondence, 1836-1849, Box 1, Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum

 

I asked chat gpt (which is very good at transcribing letter from this period) to do a transcription. Here it is:

 

Chenango County-Bainbridge March 8-1842

 

Sir I write to you under peculiar circumstances having been confined to my room for 5 weeks and now it is with a few hours at a time [that] our [friends?] come to me in winter by chance I understood no answer had been given I volunteered to answer having at present with a case of [?] in what I think of past I was compelled to having worked so. So. Smith Senior lived in Vermont connected with a band of counterfeiting— ran came to Mohawk river— adopted a married woman; to Canada, came to Palmyra; [illegible] the 5 finally believe probably may be had to identify— Jo. Smith (Mormon) came here when about 17-18 y. of age in the capacity of Glass Looker or fortune-teller at that time his physiognomy indicated almost any thing rather than native good common sound sense

 

Sir I do think I am not mistaken in the above— you may then enquire ask me Behold what I shall have done I say so, is the cat; have the Lion is behind the curtain you then know who is the Lion I say Mr. Rigdon was not the lion until after the Book of Mormon was printed he may be the Lion now you get on— who the Lion (first was I say & individually names of I kept for himself I am well aware that it must the ram in many? I prefers that the B. of M. was w— first for announcement and received no Draft, by some individual said by some to—Mr. Rigdon In this I mean not I can prove (calculate?) Mr. Rigdon did not individuals did (not hoistingly) [illegible] (I have obtained after how I commence again) so engaged the attention of a [illegible] money, both from our Golden & Silver and almost any thing every thing until civil authority brought up to H. Huggings the boys suspended the Vagabond act. So was condemned whisper came to be off off— took Reg- head for Queen—) all things straight So was not seen in our town for 2 years and more (except in Dark corners) his haunt was Palmyra and Harmony (Penn.) Bainbridge (in the Dark) making a triangle— here for 2 y. and more So. mind kept same trait only more hellish, stimulated by a individual [Ahab?] and perhaps by suppressing himself to be considered the Author of a Bible in ----

 

After 2 years from the time of So first tried he suffered in our place looked as a Lion again So was arrested & once — nation had so pelted in two [illegible] of limitations So was no sooner set on [illegible] than arrested again brought the fame me in an adjoining County only 6 miles distant tried protected 23 hours? the premise was manifested by 43 witnesses. Proof So a Vagrant idler Lang (not Drunkard) but now and the Drunk Liver Decider So a medium to good society So was asked by writing if he could see not the more than others So said he could not and perhaps any thing for a living I would and then get a Shilling the Count. & on you see made So any thing but a good man—dyer? for to Dye

 

An anecdote occurred So, and these were Digging for a chest of money in night could not obtain it they Proved one thing and an other together with Black Bitch the bitch was offered a [crossed out word] old Spinkled prayer made at the time (no money at all) The above Sworn to on trial— I’m a Small Volume at least might might be filled similar to the above Intended to give to you the [illegible] chronicle of the morrows who went from here— have you seen our mormonism was gathered helping first started for body and I would, some was titled Universities some had been baptized & Presbytery’s several Methodist’s all I think with 2 exceptions were rejected some abandoned Drum Hard’s our place in some [illegible]— Mr. Stowes, a famous horse man of Trapping Bay of 5 or 6000 given to the numerous followers to the Ohio soon retired and now here or not far from this place—in some of the morrows were good neighbors So. Did not have connection with individuals in Ohio so my Knowledge I’m so fatigued I close I write to give in confidence you will without doubt learn this is confidential friends if a part you write to make use of Do so please manifest as much patience in— as I have in— Rufus Gray?        Jno. K. Nott?

 

P.S. Sir I give you no advise on— but were I to write on the—I would begin at least where So. began to dig for money I would follow So. step by step with the eye of people by affidavit and certificate I would identify facts but perhaps your Book may be in your own mind and even may be inferred then it might be of our [illegible] you could collect facts you might if here individuals here could [illegible] could you say I could and I think have it more right in common—[?] thing at all [?] (circumstances) I have 8 children 7 of which look to me for support this Defend principally on my Daily exerting (quer.) I owe more on the one of this and my own [illegible]. Please send if communicate now and then a Mormon Taber (old) I have this of paper from your place— Direct J.K. Noble Brown Co. Colesville Michigan P.O. 3 miles one mile from O. 5 from Bainbridge O. J.K.N.

 

Again P.S. addressed [Hulish?]; a Mormon [illegible] in your Book So. Smith cast a Devil out of him (Men—?) and said how D. e. Look, said Dewd was a body of Light and Gave a Relation of in whole Prophecy in near the month was a [????] man (or some [illegible] Deemed) so present and silent— (silence) [illegible] followed the argument in I think I share with hearty— you may think so (Pat’n?) in the same Man or (colour) said an angel of Light or some holy being [illegible] from heaven tells him (M—n) to a certain [illegible] the whole process show how him [illegible] to the apostle? [illegible] is now in my [illegible]. If you in I think I now will be silent— I’m I have a great anxiety for the success of your undertaking I’m be Determined onward march &c.—                J.N.N.

 

P.S. if you want any information of me Please let me know before — or must I say— sold on S.T.N. or—          J.K.N.

 

Further Reading:


B. H. Roberts Foundation/Mormonr, "Joseph Smith and Fraud Allegations" (cf. Primary Sources)

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