Monday, April 7, 2025

Examining Bates Morris' Attempt to Parallel Mother Shipton's Prophetic Poem with Joseph Smith's Prophecies in D&C 87

In a booklet dedicated to downplaying the prophetic nature of D&C 87, one critic appealed to the “prophetic” nature of a poem attributed to Mother Shipton:

 

Mother Shipton's prophecy beats Jose Smith's away out of sight. It reads:

 

"Carriages without horses shall go,

And accidents fill the world with woe;

Around the world through shall fly

In the twinkling of an eye;

Water shall yet wonders do,

Now strange but yet they shall be true;

The world upside down shall be,

And gold be found at the root of a tree:

Through the hill man shall ride,

And horse nor ass be at this side;

Underwater men shall walk,

Shall ride, shall sleep, shall talk;

in the air shall men be seen,

In white, in blue, in green;

Iron in the water shall float

As easy as a wooden boat;

Gold shall be found and shown

IN land that's now not known;

Fire and water shall wonders do;

England shall at last admit a Jew;

The end of the world shall come

In eighteen hundred and eighty-one."

 

Whether Mother Shipton wrote this prophecy or some one else, it is a wonderful collection of the improbables and impossibles, as people then thought. Mother Shipton did not claim divine inspiration for it. It was written as a joke–just as much as "Mother goose when she wanted to wander–rode through the air on a very fine gander." The joke consisted in putting all the impossible things together and predicting the materialization as an accomplished fact in future years.

 

These lines date back to Charles the First. Mother Shipton speaks of England yet to admit a Jew. Well, the Jews were at one time banished from England, and were not allowed to return until Cromwell's time. So, the prophecy must have been written prior to Cromwell's time. Anyway, it dates back several centuries, and as near as I can figure it out it was not far from the time of Charles the First.

 

(1) Here is predicted the automobile,

(2) Many accidents

(3) The electric wire around the world

(4) Hydraulic pressure perfected

(5) Unrest of the "world–upside down"

(6) Buried gold "at the root of a tree"

(7) Railroad trains through the hills

(8) The submarine

(9) The airplane

(10) The iron clad boat

(11) Gold in California and Alaska

(12) fire and steam applied

(13) Jews return to England

(14) The only failure–the end of the world in 1881.

 

Here are thirteen points in Mother Shipton's prophecy that all came true, and she failed on only one. She put that so far ahead that she did not live to be jeered at for the one failure.

 

But Joe Smith's prophecy on the rebellion was plagiarized from politicians and divine inspiration claimed for it.

 

Mormonism, with such a leader, was founded on lies from beginning to end, and perpetrated by fraud and deception. (Bates Morris, Joe Smith's Prophecy on the Rebellion: Examined and Found Wanting [Bates Morris, 1927], 27-29)

 

For Morris, the “prophetic” poem came from either Shipton or a contemporary, and “predicts” many events and inventions, with 13/14 (or ~92%) accuracy. However, this prophecy is an invention, not by a contemporary of Shipton, but from Charles Hindley, and dates to 1862.

 

The following appeared in Macon Weekly Telegraph (Georgia) (July 30, 1880):

 

“In 1862, Mr. Charles Hindley of Brighton, England, issued what purported to be an exact reprint of “A Chap-book Version of Mother Shipton’s Prophecies, from the Edition of 1448.” In this, for the first time, there were pith and point, and special application. All modern discoveries were plainly described, and one prophecy which began,

 

“Carries without horses shall go,”
and set forth the railroads, telegraphs, steamers, and other modern inventions, wound up with
“The world unto an end shall come
In eighteen hundred and eighty-one.”

This, of course, quite startled the public. In all other important events of the nineteenth century had been so aptly described, why should not the last prediction be fulfilled? (source)

 

However, Hindley would admit his fraud. William H. Harrison, in his 1881 monograph on Shipton, provided the following details:

 

The following is the most largely circulated form of one of Mother Shipton’s reputed prophecies, which of late years has been exercising the public mind. I quote it from p 450 of Notes and Queries, December 7th, 1872, but since as well as before then, its circulation has been extensive.

 

“ANCIENT PREDICTION,
“(Entitled by popular tradition ‘Mother Shipton’s Prophecy,’)

 

“Published in 1448, republished in 1641.

 

[RB: Poem is recounted, same as above as provided by Morris]

 

. . .

 

The three earliest records in the British Museum Library, in relation to Mother Shipton, agree closely with each other, and none of them contain the lines printed on page 13, in my first Chapter, ending with the too celebrated couplet:--

 

“The world to an end shall come,
in eighteen hundred and eighty one.”

 

The lines in question and the notorious prophecy about the end of the world were fabricated about twenty years ago by Mr. Charles Hindley. The editor of Notes and Queries says, in the issue of the journal dated April 26th 1873:--

 

“Mr. Charles Hindley, of Brighton, in a letter to us, has made a clean breast of having fabricated the Prophecy quoted at page 450 of our last volume, with some ten others included in his reprint of a chap-book version, published in 1862.” (William H. Harrison, Mother Shipton Investigated: The Result of Critical Examination in the British Museum Library, of The Literature Relating to the Yorkshire Sibyl [London: W. H. Harrison, 1881], 12-13, 42-43)


Needless to say, many of the discoveries/inventions "predicted" in the poem were discovered/invented prior to 1862. The first submarine was designed and built by Cornelis Drebbel in 1620, while the principle of hydraulic pressure was discovered by Blaise Pascal in the 1640s.

The attempt to parallel the poem, falsely attributed to Shipton, with Joseph Smith’s prophecies (plural), as contained in D&C 87, is fallacious. There is probably a reason why I have only found this in Morris' 1927 booklet.

 

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