Thursday, December 11, 2025

Eric Osborn Discussing Origen, Dialogue with Heraclides and the Father and Son Being, in One Sense, One God, and Another, Two Gods

  

Origen states the problem most clearly in his Dialogue with Heraclides, where he speaks of' two Gods'. The expression is new for Christians, although Justin and others had used the phrase ' let us make' (Gen. i: 26) to prove plurality within the godhead.

 

ORIGEN: While being distinct from the father is the son himself also God?

HERACLIDES: He himself is also God.

ORIGEN: And do two Gods become a unity?

HERAGLIDES: Yes.

ORIGEN: DO we confess two Gods?

HERAGLIDES: Yes. The power is one.

 

Origen proceeds to show 'in what sense they are two and in what sense the two are one God'. Adam and Eve became one flesh and he who is joined to the Lord is one Spirit (1 Cor. 6:17). When the scriptures speak about the one and only God (Isa. 43:10; Deut. 32:39), they do not mean the father without the son.' In these utterances we are not to think that the unity applies to the God of the universe... in separation from Christ, and certainly not Christ in separation from God. Let us rather say that the sense is the same as that of Jesus' saying, "I and my father are one".' Elsewhere, Origen replies to Celsus that there is no difficulty in the father and the son being one God, since unity of mind is possible between many minds and, indeed, the first Christians were of one heart and mind. (Eric Osborn, The Emergence of Christian Theology [Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1993], 4-5)

 

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