Monday, May 11, 2026

Charles Fry (RLDS; January 1937) on 2 Nephi 3 Having a Then-Future Fulfillment

Most LDS tend to believe that Joseph Smith fulfilled 2 Nephi 3/JST Gen 50. However, not everyone in the broad “Mormon” Restorationist movement holds to this interpretation; instead, they believe it will be fulfilled in the future (often by a Native American prophet). Here is a discussion from an RLDS work from 1937 arguing against the traditional LDS interpretation:

 

 

. . . there is but little in the mission of Joseph Smith that does correspond with the work of this seer. This will be clearly seen in the light of the following points:

 

1. The man spoken of in the prophecy is to be a seer to the seed of Joseph of Egypt. Joseph Smith's work was to the gentiles.

 

2. The seer was to be esteemed highly among Joseph's seed. Joseph Smith never was, for the evident reason that he was not known to them.

 

3. The Lord has said that he would give unto this seer a commandment to do a work for the fruit of the loins of Joseph: Joseph Smith received no such commandment, nor did any particular work for the fruit of the loins of Joseph.

 

4. The seer is to bring his people, the branch, to a knowledge of the covenants God made with Joseph's father, Jacob. This Joseph Smith did not do.

 

5. This seer is to be great like unto Moses. Joseph Smith did the work appointed him of God, and it was great, but not comparable to that of Moses.

 

6. The "word" which the seer is to bring forth is "unto the seed of the loins of Joseph," referring to the branch which was broken off. The word brought forth by Joseph Smith was primarily to the gen- tiles, though it may go in time to the seed of Joseph.

 

7. The seer of the prophecy is to convince the seed of Joseph of the truth of the word which had already gone among them, (the Bible). Joseph Smith did not do this.

 

8. Nor did Joseph Smith confound false doctrines, stop contentions, and establish peace among the fruit of the loins of Joseph, as the choice seer is to do.

 

9. The branch that was broken off was to be brought by this seer to a knowledge of their fathers. This was not done by Joseph Smith.

 

10. This seer is to be "made strong, in that day when my work shall go forth among all my people." Since that work has not yet gone among "all my people," it is yet future, and could not have been done by Joseph Smith.

 

11. The work to be done by the seer is to accomplish the restoration of Israel. Joseph Smith was a prophet of the gentiles and to the gentiles, and his work did not extend directly to Israel.

 

12. The seer was to be divinely preserved, "and they that seek to destroy him shall be confounded." Joseph Smith was persecuted, imprisoned, and put to death by his enemies, and they were not confounded. On the other hand there are the points of correspondence between the work of Joseph Smith and that of the seer which we also notice:

 

1. Joseph Smith was a seer as well as a prophet.

 

2. He brought forth the word of the Lord, by the urim and thummim, which was the writing in small part of the fruit of the loins of Joseph.

 

3. His name was Joseph, and it was after the name of his father.

 

These three points however, in the light of the twelve points previously noted, do not establish Joseph Smith as the choice seer of the prophecy. There have been many seers and there may be many yet to come, so that it is easily possible that some other than the prophet to the gentiles may fulfill the prophecy. The Book of Mormon brought forth by Joseph Smith itself shows that there are greater and far more important records that God holds in reserve but which are to come forth in due time. And as to the name, correspondence with the prophecy in this particular proves nothing unless there is correspondence in all other points also, which, as we have seen, there is not. (Charles Fry, “The Choice Seer: Who Is He?,” The Saints’ Herald 84, no. 1 [January 2, 1937]: 9)

 

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