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Exchange between Blake Ostler and Randall L and Bradford J. Hall in the Seventh East Press Concerning Foreknowledge and Freedom (1981-1982)

  

Does Foreknowledge and Free Agency Post a Dilemma in Mormon Thought?

 

Mormon thought, although lacking a systematic theology, affirms at least a few. remarkably. consistent propositions about the nature of God, his relation to and the nature of reality. Indeed, the personal God of Mormonism is conditioned by and related to other temporal realities as eternal as Himself in contrast to the Absolute of traditional theology which is the unconditioned, unrelated and timeless basis of all Being. Mormonism has resolved many of the paradoxes inherent in an Absolutist conception of God by adopting·the notion of God conditioned by the nature of reality. Nevertheless, Mormon thought has often been characterized by two seemingly contradictory propositions: 1) God has infinite foreknowledge; and 2) man possesses free agency. (For example, Orson Pratt replied to a Catholic Priest: ''God's mind is not limited in knowledge, therefore the future is known to Him as well as the present. We believe the mind (of man) to be free .... in willing 'and acting." (Millennial Star, XI. p. 235,36)

 

The tension between absolute foreknowledge and the genuine free agency of individuals is commonly expressed in an argument:

 

1) If I am morally free, then I am genuinely able (not merely apparently so) to either do or not to do X

 

2) If God foreknows that I will do X, then

 

3) I cannot not do X. (1, 2) Otherwise, it is either the case that

 

4) God's foreknowledge is fallible, (2, 3) or · ·

 

5) I am not truly free. (1; 3)

 

6) But God is not fallible.

 

7) Therefore, I am not free. (1, 2, 3)

 

If the above argument is sound, then absolute foreknowledge and free agency are not co-possible.

 

Many have tried to resolve the contradiction by suggesting that God's knowledge of the future does not cause the future; rather, the future gives rise to God's foreknowledge. Such an answer is merely an evasion of the thrust of the argument, however, because causation is not mentioned in the premises of the above argument. The problem is not one of causation per se, but of fatalism, a philosophy which states that future events are inevitable.

 

Others have tried to resolve the contradiction by suggesting an analogy comparing the knowledge a parent has about the action of his child and the foreknowledge of God: "a parent can predict the actions of his or her children at times with great accuracy without necessitating determinism; in such a manner God knows our actions." There are two problems with this solution. First, the analogy breaks down at the most crucial point of similarity. While the knowledge a father has of his child does not suggest determinism because any father could be, indeed at times is, wrong; the foreknowledge of God suggests determinism because His knowledge is necessarily infallible. In fact, to properly be termed "knowledge," propositions derived there from must be true. Second, the logical implication of the analogy is that our future actions can be predicted without error on basis of our past actions, that our nature is so determined that we could not possibly change. The analogy is actually based on a premise of "soft determinism."

 

Others have tried to solve the problem by suggesting an alternative concept of omniscience, thereby modifying premise number two. Such an approach has been very popular in Mormon thought. For instance, the proposition "God cannot learn new truths," has been officially pronounced false by Brigham Young and his counselors. (see Millennial Star XX-VII, 1865, pp. 658-669) Early Mormons suggested that the nature of truth has the same-properties as the greatest possible integer. Just as "the greatest possible integer" is a meaningless term because no such integer could exist given infinity, so a comprehensive knowledge of truth would be impossible because the realm of truth is infinite. (see Samuel Richards Journal, March 25, 1855)

 

In relation to foreknowledge, some suggest that propositions about the future are neither true nor false because the future is not yet determined. An alternative definition of omniscience was suggested by B. H. Roberts that is relevant to this conception of truth. Rather than proposing that God knows all things past, present, and future as in the absolutist tradition, Roberts suggested that God is omniscient in the sense that he knows only that which is possible to know. In Roberts view, for example, it is impossible even for God to know what a perfectly round square looks like. Since propositions that are contingent on free choice cannot be determined, they also fall into this "impossible-to-know" category. (See Seventy's Course in Theology 1912] 2:70.)

 

Critics of B. H. Roberts modification of omniscience might assert that such a definition of omniscience disregards a notion of truth as absolute. In this view, the proposition that "the future will happen in a specific manner" is necessarily true because the occurrence of one future possibility precludes the possible occurrence of all other possibilities. In fact, in this line of reasoning the proposition "things will happen in the manner that they will happen" is self-evident. But if such a statement is true, then:

 

(1) Statements about future events are either true or false.

 

(2) That which is affirmed in a true statement about future events must occur; otherwise the statement is false and cannot occur.

 

Thus, the effect of such "whatever will be will be" reasoning is to establish a notion of determinism that is equally incompatible with free choice as that held by believers in an absolute God (and, it might be added, independent of any assertion of God's foreknowledge).

 

It seems, therefore, to be the case that if man is truly free, the future must be indeterminate, and that if the future is indeterminate, it cannot be known by God.

 

There are many who claim that a God who does not infallibly know the future is not an adequate object of faith. First, if God does not know the future infallibly, then he could discover truths that would contravene what He thought He knew. This objection can be satisfied by suggesting that what God knows He knows surely. In fact, if it is proper to say that God "knows" at all, then his knowledge must be correct. "For what God knows must be true: and indeed what anybody knows must be true, since it is impossible to know what is false." (Anthony Kenny, in Philosophy of Religion, W. Rowe Ed., p. 51)

 

Another problem with the objection to relative foreknowledge is that it implies that unless one knows everything, then one cannot surely know anything. However, could a Mormon possessing a testimony fear that he might learn truths tomorrow that might contravene his knowledge termed "testimony?" In fact, we must all be totally ignorant even of the truth of our own existence if it is true that one must know everything to know anything.

 

A second objection to relative foreknowledge asserts that God could not reliably predict the future if He did not know it surely. This argument can be answered by recognizing that God is also omnipotent; i.e., He is capable of accomplishing all possible things. It may be that what God declares, He has power to bring to pass instead of knowledge that it will come to pass. Thus, God's declarations about future conditions may be a function of His omnipotence rather than His omniscience.

 

Possibly the most definitive answer to those offended by the proposition that God's foreknowledge is relative to individual choice is the suggestion that, for Mormons at least, Jehovah of the Old Testament is also the Christ of the New Testament. Even though Jehovah was very God, and as such "all-knowing," "yet learned He obedience by the things which He suffered" (Heb. 5:8) and "continued from grace to grace ... because He received not a fulness at first." (D&C 93:12,14) It also appears that God genuinely had something to learn about our use of free agency, for the Gods created the earth for the benefit of other eternal individuals, "proved them herewith, to see if they will do all things whatsoever the Lord their God shall command them." (Abr. 3:25) Such a statement is meaningless if every reaction to God's commandments was foreknown.

 

In conclusion, whether or not it is actually the case that God foreknows the future infallibly, the assertion that God could learn future truths is most consistent with the assertion that man possesses free agency and with the Mormon understanding of God. It may also be the case that outmoded theological dichotomies have been applied to terms that are meaningless when analyzed. Nevertheless, the problem of foreknowledge and free agency is not likely to be resolved without further definition. (Blake Ostler “Does Foreknowledge and Free Agency Post a Dilemma in Mormon Thought?,” Seventh East Press [December 1, 1981]: 10)

 

 

Editor:

 

While Blake Ostler's article on foreknowledge and agency suggests some interesting points, his thought is often fuzzy and illogical. He also overlooks several important considerations that have bearing on the "dilemma" in question.

 

1. To begin with, his statement of the basic argument is flawed. The way the argument is structured and worded the conclusion is predetermined. In the third statement Mr. Ostler has injected the hidden premise that there is no agency by the very use of the word "cannot." The argument would read much differently by changing the word 'cannot" to "will not." There is also a problem with the way the argument is set up in that it does not follow the rules of logic, An example of this is Mr. Ostler's splitting the "If, then" statement into two different assumptions as he did. (The "then" portion of the statement is dependent on the "if" portion and technically should not be divided.)

 

2. The suggestion that the statement "the future gives rise to God's foreknowledge" is "merely an evasion" is in itself an evasion of the dilemma because it accepts as its premise that the argument previously presented is unflawed, which it is not. The question of causation is integral to the dilemma itself and if the argument does not take that into account it is worthless.

 

3. Another example of Mr. Ostler's faulty logic occurs when he arrives at the amazing conclusion that in stating "things will happen in the manner that they will happen" one establishes a notion of determinism. Again, not necessarily so. For, as Mr. Ostler wrote, this line of reasoning is self-evident.

 

Therefore, according to Mr. Ostler, determinism is the only possibility, as things will always happens as they will happen. The point he is missing again is causation. Why will things happen the way they will happen? To be compatible with agency the statement "whatever will be, will be chosen." Here again Mr. Ostler's slip of prejudice is showing.

 

4. Mr. Ostler makes the following statement: "Thus God's declarations about future conditions may be a function of his omnipotence rather than His omniscience. [Text missing in OG] to explain that a God who causes all things to happen according to his previous declarations has automatically closed the door on agency.

 

5. The next-to-last paragraph contains a rather distorted use of scripture. (Strangely enough, the only scriptures used tend, with Mr. Ostler's interpretation, to support the incompatibility of agency and foreknowledge. He ignores such obviously important references as Doctrine and Covenants 93:24 "And truth is knowledge of things as they are, and as they were, and as they are to come." 2 Nephi 9:20[God] knoweth all things, and there is not anything save he knows it." D&C 38:2 "The same which knoweth all things, for all things are present before mine eyes;")

 

The most glaring shortcoming here is the failure on Mr. Ostler's part to realize that both Hebrews 5:8 and D&C 93:12,14 refer to the mortal Christ, whose veil over his premortal recollection was still largely intact.

 

6. The final, yet predictable, problem with his article is the conclusion. Having already decided his position on the matter he consistently tilted the evidence towards his bias. Mr. Ostler seems rather reluctant to attribute to God the full range of godly attributes.

 

Among those things Mr. Ostler did not consider (but should) is that perhaps there are things we do not know about Time which God understands perfectly and is able to make use of. His knowledge of the "future" may be a function of the fact that all things are "present" before his eyes (using the word with both time and space connotations). (see-Isaiah 55:8-9) (Randall L. Hall and Bradford J. Hall, “Foreknowledge and Agency,” Seventh East Press 1, no. 9 [January 18, 1982]: 9)

 

 

Editor:

 

The response of Hall & Hall to my article regarding foreknowledge and free-agency (Seventh East Press, 1:9) obscures many aspects of my argument. First, they refused to deal with my basic argument and misunderstood the thrust of my article. Second, they missed the point about the

logical problems facing one who admits both infallible foreknowledge and free-will. I employed the following lines of logic:

 

(1) If I am morally (i.e., categorically) free, then I am genuinely (not merely apparently so) able to either do or not to do X.

 

(2) If God foreknows that I will do X, then I cannot not do X.

 

(3) Otherwise, it is either the case that

 

(a) God's foreknowledge is fallible, or

 

(b) I am not truly free (1,2).

 

(4) However, God is not fallible.

 

(5) Therefore, I am not free (1,2,3,4).

 

Hall & Hall suggest that I should not have employed the phrase "I cannot not do X" in relation to the statement "God foreknows that I will do X." Instead they suggest the phrase "I will do X." Their suggestion is, however, incongruous with the argument. Apparently they intend to satisfy the dilemma suggested by implying that if one freely, chooses X, and X is foreknown to

God, but God does not cause X, then free-will and infallible foreknowledge are compatible. There are two problems here.

 

First, the dilemma does not involve whether or not I will do X; but whether or not I can do X freely. Second, the phrase "I will do X freely" is logically incompatible with the phrase "God infallibly foreknows that I will do X." As Nelson Pike pointed out in his book God and Timelessness:

 

The claim that God knows in advance how another will act with his free-will is incoherent. If God knows (infallibly believes) at Time' (T1) that Jones does A at T2, it follows that Jones is not able at T2 to do other than A at T2. Thus, if God foreknows [infallibly believes] at T1 that Jones does A at T2, it follows that Jones does A at T2, but not freely. If God believed at T1 that Jones does A at T2, if follows that Jones action is not free, for he could not do otherwise. (p. 78)

 

Hall & Hall also suggest that my argument "does not follow the rules of logic." The only error that they could find was a simple error in presentation. The "if" portion of the statement in (2) should not have been divided from the "then" portion. Pointing out such an error, however, does not constitute a refutation of this or any argument. Thus, the argument outlined stands.

 

Again, Hall & Hall suggest that causation is integral to understanding the problem of foreknowledge and free-agency. I admit that, causation is essential in a discussion of naturalistic determinism; however, the dilemma of foreknowledge and free-will is completely independent of the question of causation. Once again, they fail to deal with the problem of the inevitability of future actions entailed in the idea of infallible foreknowledge, which arises without reference to causation in the argument.

 

Hall & Hall suggest that the statement "things will happen in the manner that they will happen" and the suggestion that such reasoning is self-evident would bind me to determinism. They failed however, to note that I discussed this statement in relation to meaningful and meaningless statements. The former statement is meaningful only if one assumes absolute truth and, therefore, determinism as Hall & Hall suggest.

 

However,· I believe such a statement is meaningless precisely because the future can be infallibly foreknown given an · indeterminate future contingent on free choices is questionable.

 

Again, Hall & Hall obscure my point that trust in God's declarations about the future may rely on His omnipotence (in a finite sense) rather than on His omniscience. Their point is well taken, for what is brought to pass by omnipotence does indeed assume God as an intervening cause. However, the notion that God can bring to pass his purposes by omnipotent action despite evil choices of free agents does not necessarily imply universal determinism. What I have in mind is something like that suggested by William James' The Dilemma of Determinism, which combines a notion of omniscience (compatible with scriptural declarations of omniscience) with a notion of categorical free-will:

 

(1) God knows now all possibilities.

 

(2) God knows now how He will respond to whichever contingent possibility occurs in order to insure the realization of His purposes.

 

(3) God knows now what His purposes are and that He will achieve them.

 

(4) God does not know now, in every case, exactly which possibilities will be chosen or become actual.

 

James' outline of omniscience brings me to Hall & Hall's last objection that a conditional foreknowledge is not compatible with the scriptures. They admit that the scriptures which I quoted (Heb. 5:8; D&C. 93:12-14; Abraham 3:25) "support the incompatibility of agency and foreknowledge." However, the scriptures which they quote to support their notion of infallible foreknowledge (D&C 38:2; 2 Ne. 9:20) may also be compatible with a definition of omniscience which intends that "God knows all that is;" but need not include that which is not or is not yet. Note that such scriptures are in the present tense: "He knoweth all things, and there is nothing  save he knows it." Thus, such scriptural statements are not incompatible with a notion of omniscience which suggests that God knows all that is present. Also, in relation to the possibility that even God could yet learn new truths as they come into existence.

 

In conclusion, Hall & Hall are too quick to assume that the temporal and conditioned God of Mormonism can be identified with the timeless Absolute of classical theology. If all things are present before God's eyes in terms of timelessness, as they seem to suggest, then God could not have foreknowledge because neither before nor after exists for a timeless being. If they intend to say that God is timeless, I ask, "Was there a time before God became God?" Such absolutist preconceptions militate against the Mormon idea of God, for the claim that God is timeless involves the idea that God lacks temporal extension, and is therefore not corporeal in any sense of the word "body." Timelessness also involves the idea that there are no spatial contrasts between God and His creations, or in classical terminology, totally unrelated. I believe that the idea of timelessness which is creeping into Mormon thought is a betrayal of the dynamic God spoken of by Joseph Smith who is forever becoming and for whom no absolute limits exist in terms of knowledge, power or goodness.

 

Mormonism's chief strength rests in its understanding of its Hebrew roots, in its concept of a personal, temporal and dynamic God involved in helping other beings to become as much like Himself as they freely will to become. It is sad indeed that so many Mormons prefer to emphasize classical attributes such as timelessness, immutability and even absolute actuality which contradict . the insights of the restoration. A static God who is timeless could neither act nor be acted upon; he could not relate nor be related to. Such a being is necessarily impersonal, and therefore, not an adequate object of faith. Thus, in attempting to resolve the dilemma of foreknowledge and free-agency, Hall & Hall do little more than to offer a mass of confusion. (Blake Ostler, “Foreknowledge and Agency,”1, no. 11 Seventh East Press [February 7, 1982]: 9)

 

 

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